Beersmith IBU calculation

[meirion658]

In short no lol. It must be the profile set up of my grainfather equipment. I need to set up a new profile maybee or just wait for the grainfather online recipe builder which is due out soon. Although i would prefer to stay in beersmith. Anyone out there with a profile that works in beersmith 2.3.7?????

 

[DoctorMick]

In short no lol. It must be the profile set up of my grainfather equipment. I need to set up a new profile maybee or just wait for the grainfather online recipe builder which is due out soon. Although i would prefer to stay in beersmith. Anyone out there with a profile that works in beersmith 2.3.7?????

The Grainfather add on profile works fine for me. Is that the one you're using?

 

[meirion658]

:ugeek:No it not I used an adapted version which has been working fine until this recipe lol. The joys of software and IT.

 

[DoctorMick]

Have you checked the estimate hop utilisation from whirlpool check box and the time associated to it in the equipment profile you're using? As you can cool almost instantly in a GF at this time of year I reckon if that's set high it'll be the source of your problem if it is ticked.

 

[meirion658]

Just unticked the above and has bough the IBU down to 41 which is a lot more realistic for the amount of hops used.

Hopefully that will cure the problem!!!!

Thanks
Meirion

 

[TartanSpecial]

sounds like you've (Dr Mick's) solved it :thumb:

 

[TartanSpecial]

odd thing is, with my equipment set-up, ticking or unticking the box and having 3,30 or 300minutes whirpool time above 85c makes no difference to the 0 minutes IBUs.

 

[meirion658]

God knows what going on TBH, What I don't understand is the difference between this brew and the others..... I just hope the kids have not been messing about with something on here, which is the most likely scenario .....

 

[peebee]

odd thing is, with my equipment set-up, ticking or unticking the box and having 3,30 or 300minutes whirpool time above 85c makes no difference to the 0 minutes IBUs.

It was a very recent feature (my version is 2.3.7). Is your Beersmith software up to date?

IBUs for a "steep/whirlpool" hop addition should be the same as a zero minute boil addition (as long as the "steep time" is the same as the configured "whirlpool time above 85C").

There is also "steep/whirlpool util factor" in Options/Bitterness and "Steeping Efficiency" in Options/Advanced. 15% in mine which I think is the default? These settings have an effect on non-zero minute hop additions but then the calculations are a bit more involved!

(EDIT: Apologies, the "whirlpool time above 85C" is also a setting in the Equipment Profile and probably overrides the same setting in global Options. And I guess the partnering setting "estimate boil hop util in whirlpool" in the Equipment Profile just turns all these attempts to judge the IBUs off.)

 

[meirion658]

It is the new version 2.7.3. I have that whirpool above 85 ticked. Should it be?

What your profile set up for the grainfather

It was a very recent feature (my version is 2.3.7). Is your Beersmith software up to date?

IBUs for a "steep/whirlpool" hop addition should be the same as a zero minute boil addition (as long as the "steep time" is the same as the configured "whirlpool time above 85C").

There is also "steep/whirlpool util factor" in Options/Bitterness and "Steeping Efficiency" in Options/Advanced. 15% in mine which I think is the default? These settings have an effect on non-zero minute hop additions but then the calculations are a bit more involved!

(EDIT: Apologies, the "whirlpool time above 85C" is also a setting in the Equipment Profile and probably overrides the same setting in global Options. And I guess the partnering setting "estimate boil hop util in whirlpool" in the Equipment Profile just turns all these attempts to judge the IBUs off.)

 

[nicowk]

I read somewhere (probably on here) that the human tongue can only taste up to about 80 or 90 IBUs anyway.

Reckon its still drinkable at that level? I stupidly rushed my last brew and had a guess at AA conversions for the recipe I was using and missed by a mile. Calculated after that the IBU is 86. When I tasted before the fermenter vessel it was pretty disgustingly bitter!

 

[peebee]

It is the new version 2.7.3. I have that whirpool above 85 ticked. Should it be?

What your profile set up for the grainfather

I'd say "yes". I guess it's an option because the author of Beersmith knows some people are going to not agree with these changes. (e.g. Look up philistine).

I do not own a "grainfather".

(PS: My previous post was really aimed at "TartanSpecial" hence why I quoted his post. You've already told us you have 2.7.3.).