Beer is nuts... or can be?

[peteplus1]

Totally in love with modern day stouts in all forms (good job as I'm judging January's Stout comp!). At the moment we can't get enough of strong imperial stouts, coffee.. chocolate etc, that are very dessert like. If you know what I'm talking about I'm thinking the likes of Siren's cake stout, Wild beer's Millionaire, Omnipollo and numerous others. We've just made a clone (ish) of Mikkeller's Beer Geek Breakfast Stout. Very coffee laden and happy with a first taster but leaving it now till at least Xmas.
What I'm wondering is how to make a similar beer with the addition of a nutty flavour. Had a beer recently that was like this and the nut addition was devine. How do you get the nut flavour and aroma? I'm thinking hazelnut by the way. Is it to add actual nuts (in the mash? Boil? Soaked in spirit and then in the secondary? ) or adding as a liqueur afterwards?

Ta!

 

[Leon103]

Nut extract?

 

[peteplus1]

Is that cheating? Or the best way maybe?

 

[Fil]

try the nut flavoured syrups used to flavour novelty coffees perhaps.

something i discovered by accident if lme is left in the back of the cupboard a year or so past its use by date (whoops) it can 'mature' somewhat darkening and concentrating some richer flavours..

I added a tin of amber lme before checking any best before date to a brew and the result was not quite as expected turning the final brew into a Brown beer darker than your agerave brown ale withsome of the flavour characteristics you mention..

 

[MickDundee]

I was planning on using this stuff when I do my PB milk stout:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002GJ9JWS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_.PYrybK8449RW

 

[DoctorMick]

I'd have thought hazelnut paste would be an option? Not sure what impact the oils would have on head retention tho.

 

[MyQul]

You can do something called fat washing (it's a technique cocktail barmen use). Soak your nuts in vodka (no smirking at the back there!) for a a few days maybe two weeks. The longer you leave it the stronger the nutty flavour. Then put the nut infused vodka in the freezer to freeze. Then scrape the frozen fat off the top and you can then use the vodka to flavour your beer. You can do this with all kinds of foods to flavour beer/alcohol such as cheese and bacon. Do a google search for 'fat washing' for more info

 

[MrRock]

I used Sukrin "fat reduced" peanut flour that I picked up in Sainsbury's in a brown ale I did.

I just mixed it with some water and poured it into the fermenter at the start of fermentation and it turned out ok.

 

[Razor]

You can do this with all kinds of foods to flavour beer/alcohol such as cheese and bacon.

If I can have bacon flavoured booze I may never drink anything else. Ever.


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[MyQul]

If I can have bacon flavoured booze I may never drink anything else. Ever.


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https://bacontoday.com/bacon-beer/

 

[strange-steve]

You can do something called fat washing (it's a technique cocktail barmen use). Soak your nuts in vodka (no smirking at the back there!) for a a few days maybe two weeks. The longer you leave it the stronger the nutty flavour. Then put the nut infused vodka in the freezer to freeze. Then scrape the frozen fat off the top and you can then use the vodka to flavour your beer. You can do this with all kinds of foods to flavour beer/alcohol such as cheese and bacon. Do a google search for 'fat washing' for more info

Interesting technique, I like the sound of it. This is defo going on the to-do list, maybe a nutella porter...

 

[stigman]

Interesting technique, I like the sound of it. This is defo going on the to-do list, maybe a nutella porter...

I'm drooling just thinking about that Steve.

 

[Razor]

https://bacontoday.com/bacon-beer/

Thank you. I'll be checking that out.


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[MyQul]

Interesting technique, I like the sound of it. This is defo going on the to-do list, maybe a nutella porter...

Dont fancy a cheese toasty stout then?

 

[peteplus1]

You can do something called fat washing (it's a technique cocktail barmen use). Soak your nuts in vodka (no smirking at the back there!) for a a few days maybe two weeks. The longer you leave it the stronger the nutty flavour. Then put the nut infused vodka in the freezer to freeze. Then scrape the frozen fat off the top and you can then use the vodka to flavour your beer. You can do this with all kinds of foods to flavour beer/alcohol such as cheese and bacon. Do a google search for 'fat washing' for more info

This sounds the way forward. Thanks for that. Add it into the secondary just like adding the coffee in the oatmeal stout I've just done?

 

[YeastFace]

I used flavorganics natural hazelnut extract in a chocolate hazelnut porter (called it Ferrero Rochale) I made a few years ago. Didn't taste artificial as some nut beers I've tried have. Although I was probably a bit too subtle-handed and could have added more.

 

[MyQul]

This sounds the way forward. Thanks for that. Add it into the secondary just like adding the coffee in the oatmeal stout I've just done?

Yup :thumb:

 

[peteplus1]

Yup :thumb:

Would you have any suggestions on how much to add into a 20/23ltr brew?

 

[Braindead]

Did any of you try the fat washing technique?
I need to use pecans and don't want a crappy flavour replacement.
I just know there's way too many oils in Pecans.