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i doubt anyone would spend thousands of dollars on home wine making - there isn't much to substitute for C J J Berry's "first steps in winemaking" in my opinion. proper winemaking knowledge from somebody who knows his stuff, and it's easy to pick up a copy for under a tenner, information that is as true today as it was in the 70's.

failing that, check out the guides on WOW, and go from there. if you're not picky like me, you won't go wrong! :cheers:
 
:hmm: yeah I doubted it myself, I just wondered if it had any good recipes?

Mind you maybe I should stop buying books, think I've got most of the wine making ones on amazon now :whistle:
 
Megaross said:
Seconded on C.J.J. Berry, that man knows his stuff.
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Where is the I need to Keep my Mouth Shut Smilie ??


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M U S T R E S I S T T H E T E M P T A T I O N
 
Do tell?

First book I read when I started, very informative. "First steps in winemaking"
 
Actually it's not too bad, I do think that the recipes are a bit too sugar heavy, and consequently produce wine that is too strong . . .I don't really want my table wines to have the strength of a dessert wine . . . if you are aware of this then you can compensate at the beginning . . . if not, well the wine is stronger and slightly lacking in body for its strength.

Personally I prefer Progressive Winemaking By Acton And Duncan . . . Much better recipes in that one.
 
I want the progressive wines book. Award Winning Wines by Bill Smith is excellent. Not a straight up recipe book, more about how to develop a recipe and how to use ingredients.
 
For fear of being stoned, I would avoid Berry. Not quite sure why he is hailed as a god and a must read. As said nearly every recipe is way over the top sugar wise, but as someone once suggested the sugar was different when he wrote it, so that might explain the sugar heavy recipes. But you can do no better than read the articles and recipes on here.
 
I have a 1953 hardback book by Ambrose Heath, title is Home Made Wines and Liquers

seems they loked their sugar 60 years ago


Whortleberry wine, 2Lb sugar per gallon
Apple wine three and a half pounds sugar per gallon


where would you find Whortleberries today ? there must be a modern name

Edit, Wiki knows

Whortleberry may refer to the berries of several plants of genus Vaccinium:

Vaccinium myrtillus, Bilberry, or Blue Whortleberry
Vaccinium vitis-idaea, Red Whortleberry
Vaccinium uliginosum, Bog Whortleberry
 
I've got the PDF that someone on another forum did called, "updated CJJ Berry Recipes"
It goes thru the whole book and updates all the recipes to the corrected amounts :party:

The links on another forum so is it ok to post it here?
 
If it's not, do you fancy pming it to me :grin: Berry is a bit sugar heavy, but as you say, once you notice that, you can easily compensate for it (except the hop wine, turns out he was right with that one, ended up having to pour some must away to get the extra sugar in)
 
Brewtrog said:
If it's not, do you fancy pming it to me :grin: Berry is a bit sugar heavy, but as you say, once you notice that, you can easily compensate for it (except the hop wine, turns out he was right with that one, ended up having to pour some must away to get the extra sugar in)

I'd have frozen the must for use topping up the DJ/carboy later on. Why waste it?
 
Some of the recipes on the pdf do seem better, but some are missed out and some are changed to the point of being a different recipe, e.g. January is shortened by three recipes, coffee wine is gone, his barley wine becomes mixed grain and potato wine, the rice and raisin wine becomes a third raisin wine. It even has few few added in (eg artichoke sherry). Worth keeping a hold of.
 
In terms of recipes he's maybe lacking, but as a general start to go through all the basic concepts of brewing good wine he explains it really well.
 

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