I've only been doing this for 3 weeks and have already got 20 litres of real cider from apples bottled, 7 litres of brewferm belgian triple 8% kit bottled and 32 pints of St Peters IPA Kit in the fv yesterday. Am I addicted already? I think so. I've only just emptied an fv when I bottled my cider so am already planning the next one. A friend has got the kit for all grain so I may wait until he's given it a test run and advance to that from kits.