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yup had a good study of said post good info :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

ok i will take on board all advice given sad thing is i like lager never drank bitter or ales used to drink export or heavy in my younger years but ales and bitters are not found in our pubs up here 18 miles north of glasgow still you never know regards sandy

ok made my mind up ,the dark side has won, will start gathering every thing and anything i can beg ,borrow or bag hmm, for the cause ,thinking of using gas as the main source of brewing out in the brewery /shed once gut out all her gardening tools ect new roof insulation and water supplies, may...