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Lighten up Francis, the big brewers do it that way.

Make beer, water it down, bottle. Simple.

Star san

I pump the cooling wort through a hop spider, gives circulation to assist the chiller coil and filters out the ****.

RichardM, that just goes to show you how god-awful the industrial swill is here. I think the taste I'm looking for could be described as a bit like overly-stewed tea, definitely a sharp tang to it.

Thanks for the replies you have given me much to read. I have been using Beersmith 3 software and following recipes posted there. Using 2 row pale malt with about 10% 60 lovibond caramel in the grain bill no adjuncts as yet but am open to ideas. Yeast so far WLP 002 and WLP 023 in a constant...

Howdy brewers, my family moved us to Canada when I was 15, growing up over there (Debben)I used to steal dad's beer when i had the chance, i went back in 79 and enjoyed the beers very much (Even Tesco bitter) whoever was making that stuff for them. Anyway I make my own beer these days and am...