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Definitely. That stupid law about wind turbines absolutely MUST be overturned.

Throughout the New Forest, we have massive pylons. They're hideous and obviously have lots of long wires coming off them.
But I understand why.

Personally, I'd much rather see lots of wind turbines.

yes plenty of wind farms north of the border now and despite all the scaremongering they have mostly fitted and become part of the area, especially the community turbines that get share of the income for allowing use of community land that way the local area directly benefits
 
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I'm one of the few people who doesn't consider wind turbines an eyesore. I think they look relatively elegant and I have no objection to them
 
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I was in Bruges a couple of weeks ago, and while on the roof of the De Haalve Maan brewery I was told that the view/skyline was highly protected so that’s why there were no new looking or tall buildings.

I then turned around and saw 6 massive wind turbines about a mile away.
 
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I'm one of the few people who doesn't consider wind turbines an eyesore. I think they look relatively elegant and gave no objection to them

When sited corrected they can add to landscape, Whitelee in Ayrshire is good example was marsh land not suitable for building homes etc windfarm is an addition the area with visitor centre and lost of trails and mountain bikers love it.

When common sense uses they do not impact the local area and the cost for onshore a proven technology is a fraction of offshore.

Its not the only solution we are an island nation we have thousands of miles of coasts and tidal energy to use and the misconception that we need hours of sunshine for solar panels to work is slowly being debunked.

Its wrong that all EV grants and support have been removed, and any assistance is ruled out for those in full time employment and not classed a sick for financial assistance with solar and battery installs and high temp heat pumps etc.

I get we are beyond broke but comes back to generating employment and profit for UK made equipment, scale of economy would dictate a lowering of prices if adopted on mass
 
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I'm one of the few people who doesn't consider wind turbines an eyesore. I think they look relatively elegant and I have no objection to them

I also don't consider them an eyesore.

When they built the first wind farm here we walked to the base of one stood with our backs to the pillar and looked up the blades looked like they were going to take your head off even though you knew they were many feet away, the noise was also amazing.
 
When common sense uses they do not impact the local area and the cost for onshore a proven technology is a fraction of offshore.
Not true - in the 2022 allocation round, onshore wind came in at £42.47/MWh, offshore wind was 12% cheaper at £37.35/MWh. So given that the wind blows more consistently at sea, and there's no NIMBYs around, it makes sense to prioritise offshore wind.

For comparison, solar and energy-from-waste were £45.99/MWh and tidal was £178.54/MWh - whilst tidal has many advantages in theory, in practice it's proving a real tough nut to crack.

Current wholesale price is about £70/MWh.
 
Not convinced the pension argument is fair people like myself have contributed for 30 years why should we be given a raw deal compared to our peers, non state pensions are already taxed.
As I said means test the pension, nothing unfair about that. Not only saves the government money but channels money to the more needy. The attitude I paid in, it's all my money is rather parsimoniousness. Compassion should be shown to those genuinely on struggle street not to their making.
 
As I said means test the pension, nothing unfair about that. Not only saves the government money but channels money to the more needy. The attitude I paid in, it's all my money is rather parsimoniousness. Compassion should be shown to those genuinely on struggle street not to their making.
The biggest problem, most of us live in a low wage economy. The gap between the low paid and benefits is very low, leading to some having no reason or gaining no advantage going out to work.
Sad as it sounds but that's the cycle some face. Childcare being the biggest stumbling block for most people looking to work.
 
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The biggest problem, most of us live in a low wage economy. The gap between the low paid and benefits is very low, leading to some having no reason or gaining no advantage going out to work.
Sad as it sounds but that's the cycle some face. Children care being the biggest stumbling block for most people looking to work.
So, those who have achieved something in life and made their fortune should still get their pension? Over here if you have $900,000 dollars in your bank or super will not see a brass razoo of their pension. The means test doesn't take into account property, just cash which is available.
 
I assume you are talking UK figures I am not up to speed i was talking about Scotland only, where the cost for land based systems is reducing.
Not true - in the 2022 allocation round, onshore wind came in at £42.47/MWh, offshore wind was 12% cheaper at £37.35/MWh. So given that the wind blows more consistently at sea, and there's no NIMBYs around, it makes sense to prioritise offshore wind.

For comparison, solar and energy-from-waste were £45.99/MWh and tidal was £178.54/MWh - whilst tidal has many advantages in theory, in practice it's proving a real tough nut to crack.

Current wholesale price is about £70/MWh.
 
So, those who have achieved something in life and made their fortune should still get their pension? Over here if you have $900,000 dollars in your bank or super will not see a brass razoo of their pension. The means test doesn't take into account property, just cash which is available.
That's not what I said, in another post above it was said that working should be more attractive. A low paid worker with a pension would end up worse off than someone who never worked. Childcare is one of the biggest expenses next to paying rent/mortgage.
I am all for means tested system but it would need to be set up correctly.
 
That's not what I said, in another post above it was said that working should be more attractive. A low paid worker with a pension would end up worse off than someone who never worked. Childcare is one of the biggest expenses next to paying rent/mortgage.
I am all for means tested system but it would need to be set up correctly.

yep I echo this, not sure means testing is the way ahead taxation maybe, I have seem in my late grand parents the large gulf in how they were treated
Grand parent A - never had a formal works pension but worked all her days, received full state pension, reduced and at one point zero rates (council tax) and generally all the help that was going
Grand parent B - she worked in education for the state (civil service) all her days and worked beyond retrial age due to staff shortage in education inspectors at the time. Had her works pension, this meant her state pension was means tested and was exempt from all forms of benefit, time she paid her rent etc she had significantly less disposal income than Grand parent A, not talking a few pounds either.

I genuinely hope we do not go back to this madness or there is a realistic assessment of means testing it is wrong that you work and contribute but then end up worse off.

My personal bug bear (resolved in a couple of years when kids reach 18) My ex wife did not work when we split as she made more money to claim benefits, the maintenance I had to agree during divorce is not taken into account for benefits, result she gleefully tells me how she has double the disposable income per month than I do. I do not qualify for any form of benefit whatsoever quite rightly due to my income from full time employment, whereas she gets almost every benefit, and can use her income plus maintenance for loans and mortgages etc but not for means testing, the system is deeply flawed and has a way punishing the poorest and rewarding those who choose not to work or contribute to society
 
So, those who have achieved something in life and made their fortune should still get their pension? Over here if you have $900,000 dollars in your bank or super will not see a brass razoo of their pension. The means test doesn't take into account property, just cash which is available.
There's obviously a huge argument around this.
Being in my 50s, it was suggested to me when I was younger that I invest in my pension, add it to the state pension and that would be my living wage. Which ironically would be somewhere around what the state calls "The Living wage" (Around £24k a year or £12 an hour)

You'd be shocked how much I actually pay in and have been doing for some years - a failed defined benefit pension which is worthless, despite paying in for 15 years and now having to stuff 20% of my income into a pension for the rest of my working days to get to what the Government call "A living wage".

I'm going to be taxed on this too.

I completely get that it's not sustainable (We're not in the kind of problems the Japanese have yet and we're probably 100 years away from that). I also don't disagree that youngsters should be forced to pay into a private pension pot, but the last few Governments have absolutely caned the older generations and the Tories bring in the triple-lock and expect the oldiewonks who have been shafted (particular the WASPI folk) to keep voting for them?

You can't suddenly change people's Ts and Cs when they've got no way of getting out of their situation.

I'm also not one of those though that should "We paid in, we should be able to cash out", because that's just a poor argument.
 
Means testing always seems to be one of those things that makes complete sense but then you inevitably find huge loopholes, and the whole cost of administering the scheme ends up costing a large chunk of the money you avoid paying out.

As people get older they supposedly get more conservative. I'm getting more and more in favour of a universal basic income.
 

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