Use em up Stout

dreaddan · Mar 24, 2024

So I'm wanting to use up my grain before ording some more, so I've come up with this recipe - aiming to be a stout - but I feel I'm just chucking grain in so thought I dask you lot what you think?

This is for 5L batch
650g Marris Otter
250g Caramunich 2
150g Crystal DArk
100g flaked torrefied barley
100g Specal B
50g carapils

7g Bramlin cross @60min
5g Bramlin Ccross @5 min
20g Admiral 20min hopstand @80g

I'm considering adding some coca powder @15 boil and villia pods in the ferminter too.

what are your thoughts ?
Cheers

YeastFace · Mar 24, 2024

You've over 40% Crystal type malts there, which I think is a bit excessive, and you may end up with quite a chewy beer.

Have you any more base grain or malt extract?

dreaddan · Mar 24, 2024

Yes I have another 1kg of golden promice.

YeastFace · Mar 24, 2024

Do you have any chocolate?

I think you could make a nice brown porter from the Golden Promise + Maris Otter, Chocolate, Dark Crystal, and Special B (maybe either the flaked barley or carapils too).

Would give some nice dark fruit flavours, which would complement the Bramling Cross

dreaddan · Mar 24, 2024

No choclate grain, but i have coca powder or could get some cooking chocolate.

dreaddan · Mar 25, 2024

Would this be a better mix?

This is for 5L batch
650g Marris Otter
250g golden promice.
150g Crystal DArk
100g flaked torrefied barley
80g Caramunich 2
80g Specal B
50g carapils

Thanks

Stu's Brews · Mar 25, 2024

Looking at the malts you have, you are going to struggle to make a stout. You really need something like chocolate malt or roasted barley.

However, you do seem to have everything you need to make a nice Bitter or ESB. Keep your base malts (Maris Otter / Golden Promise) to about 80-90% of the grain bill and then use the crystal malts to add depth. I'd keep the flaked barley too to add some body.

Something like this should work:

Maris Otter - 65%
Golden Promise - 20%
Flaked Barley - 5%
Caramunich 2 - 5%
Crystal Dark - 5%

You can play around with the percentages a bit to suit your available grain quantities.

dreaddan · Mar 28, 2024

I might have added too much coca...

Tanglefoot · Mar 28, 2024

Looks like Bisto !

Sandimas · Mar 28, 2024

Was going to suggest Cacao Nibs (available from Tesco etc), which I've just added to my stout, but see you've gone with cocoa.....let us know how it turns out.

dreaddan · Mar 28, 2024

Yes I was going to use cocaco nibs but my wife pointed out we have lots of cocaco powder and the nibs will probably sit in the cupboard...

I will update once its ready :)
Thinking about it -I may need to up the level of vanilla I was planning to compensate...

foxy · Mar 28, 2024

dreaddan said:
View attachment 97479I might have added too much coca...

So what is it?

dreaddan · Mar 29, 2024

It was supposed to be a cholate vanilla stout/porter , but I forgot to double check the amount of cocoa power to add so added 100g in a 5l batch...

So I guess I've made my first pastry stout/porter/milkshake thing....

jof · Mar 29, 2024

The bucket looks very full there. I hope it can contain the krausen once fermentation is at its peak.

dreaddan · Mar 29, 2024

jof said:
The bucket looks very full there. I hope it can contain the krausen once fermentation is at its peak.

I did drain some off but it should be OK (fingers crossed)

foxy · Mar 29, 2024

dreaddan said:
It was supposed to be a cholate vanilla stout/porter , but I forgot to double check the amount of cocoa power to add so added 100g in a 5l batch...

So I guess I've made my first pastry stout/porter/milkshake thing....

Those ingredients wouldn't come within a bulls roar of a stout, Stu's Brews gave some sound advice on what to brew. You should have followed it.

dreaddan · Mar 30, 2024

foxy said:
Those ingredients wouldn't come within a bulls roar of a stout, Stu's Brews gave some sound advice on what to brew. You should have followed it.

Your right he has and will be used.
I kind of decided to go with it as the 2nd recipie easnt too far off his suguestion. Plus I still have enough left over to follow his recipe next :)

So is toasted barley ot cholate malts the key to Stouts them?

Stu's Brews · Mar 30, 2024

dreaddan said:
So is toasted barley ot cholate malts the key to Stouts them?

Pretty much. For a true stout you need some sort of roasted malt. That gives it the deep black colour as well as the chocolate/coffee/roasted aroma and flavour.

dreaddan · Mar 30, 2024

Stu's Brews said:
Pretty much. For a true stout you need some sort of roasted malt. That gives it the deep black colour as well as the chocolate/coffee/roasted aroma and flavour.

Cheers, I'll see if I can a small amount to help use up what I've got.

dreaddan · Mar 30, 2024

jof said:
The bucket looks very full there. I hope it can contain the krausen once fermentation is at its peak.

The answer was a no it was not, its now got a blow off tank...

Use em up Stout

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