Chocolate Waffle Stout - Help Needed

[Cammmy]

Hi All

I've brewed various kits and partial mashes before but have just got myself a Brewzilla 3.1 to move into all grain. I brewed a Grapefruit IPA over the weekend and have a Dopplebock to do once the fermenter is free. After this I want to do something more interesting and was thinking a Chocolate Waffle Stout. I've never created a recipe before, so would like some help coming up with one. Here's what I've got so far:

Just to note, I don't have target gravity etc. I want a big, full bodied and sweet beer but I'm not particularly fussed if it's 7% or 12%

I was going to start with this recipe for a milk stout:

Mash for 1:15. I was thinking a higher temp for more body. 68-70 degrees?

2-row pale malt - 3KG
Roasted barley - 460g
Medium crystal malt - 340g
Chocolate malt - 500g (I've upped this from 340g)
Munich malt - 340g
Flaked Barley 280g
Flaked oats - 220g

In the boil:

Magnum 10g @ 60mins
Goldings 25g @ 10mins
Lactose 460g @ 10 mins

Yeast - Wyeast 1187 Ringwood Ale

I was thinking about adding the following for the Chocolate waffle aspect

Golden promise malt - what quantity would you suggest?
Chocolate syrup (fat free if possible) - Perhaps have to add to taste in secondary?
Steep 2TBsp fenugreek and 2 Vanilla pods in 1/2 cup of bourbon, add at bottling with maple syrup to carbonate.

Any thoughts? If anyone has a recipe for this, I'd love to see it. I couldn't find one, so would like to have a crack at it. Also, I'm not sure if all of this is available in the UK, so any substitutions would be appreciated.

Ta

 

[Leon103]

The above recipe isn't a milk stout. Milk stout typically use lactose to sweeten. Not sure if I can help getting a waffle flavour but to me it seems too many things going on with that recipe. Do you need the bourbon and vanilla for example

 

[Cammmy]

Hi, thanks for the reply. I have lactose listed in the boil section.

As for the things going on, I'm open to suggestion. The bourbon was to make a tinkture with the fenugreek to get maple flavour; I can drop the vanilla. I figured bourbon might add a little something over using vodka?

 

[The Baron]

I think 1.3 kg of chocolate,crystal and roasted barley is way too much it will be too bitter (in a roasty/chocolate way) for my liking I would dial it down for your first attempt and then perfect it from there its easier to add next time and impossible to take away

 

[Cammmy]

Great, thanks, would you suggest removing some from all 3 or more from one than the others?

 

[Cammmy]

Hi All

I decided to make things a bit safer and just go with the Milk Stout recipe from my homebrew book and then try add what I want, rather than trying to mix in too much from the waffle ale thread I was reading. This is what I have for a 23L batch:

.22kg Flaked oats
.28kg Flaked barley
.34kg Chocolate malt (either late mash edition or cold steeped?)
.34kg Medium crystal
.34kg Munich
.46kg Roasted barley
3kg 2 row Pale malt
.50kg Golden promise (my edition)
.45kg Lactose
.5kg Maple syrup (my edition)
10g magnum @60min
30g Goldings @ 10 min
.23kg Cacao nibs, soaked in spirit for 1 week then all added to secondary for 1-2 weeks
Fenugreek tincture added to taste at bottling (Fenugreek us used to make maple flavoured syrup)

Yeast, WY-1084

Beersmith is estimating 1.065 OG and 1.018 GF for 6.2% abv (plus the spirit, which won't be much), which I would be happy with

Is there anything here that looks totally wrong for what i'm trying to do?

All help appreciated.